Most importantly, their coffee is lousy compared to most boutique roasters (OK, in my experience). I worked in music stores in my teens and early 20s. There is nothing new copying ideas, just go look at the Flash of Genius. The original Beatstep is pretty much a paper weight. The plan is a good marketing plan. Specifically, I know that the Neutron can operate in paraphonic mode where the MIDI input notes are split between oscillator 1 and 2. Behringer are trying to capitalize on the success of the keystep and, perhaps more significantly, test how companies (and consumers) will respond to such moves. Pros - for beginners: * Low-cost for the power you get * Really straightforward - with … Now some of them are, notably Smith and Moog, but without selling their souls in the process. Music gear information shops, discussion board customers and even Behringer’s personal followers on Fb have criticised the Swing. The day Behringer goes down it will be a good day for music and music business because they haven’t done anything unique that musicians really needed. In fact, this synth market was built from scratch on the shoulders of Moog, Buchla, Perlman, Oberheim, Smith, Kakehashi, Chowning and more. I am not aware of any other mixers that function in that way, so that’s the innovation that turned me on to Behringer in the first place. That’s probably the real bad decision being made here. That alone must be worth the $30 extra? No contract has been drafted or signed.”. Maybe. ?? And if I see anyone else with their gear I cringe and it makes me want to stop listening. The Behringer Swing MIDI controller and sequencer is a direct copy of Arturia’s KeyStep and it’s caused an internet furore. How different would it have to be to satisfy you? This is just morally wrong. Here’s a couple of comments I posted when I saw their YouTube video: “Looking forward to the Behringer Live 11 Suite DAW for sub $750, and before Ableton get theirs out. I’ve already had issues with a Behringer mixer after little use, and the direction Uli is taking his company right now leaves a bad taste in the mouth. And I will pay for it, Uli. It’s pay now or later, as most Behringer stuff breaks, and the musician eventually buys a quality product anyway. Up to now they were a fully respectable company…. Personally, I feel sad, and am also upset about that sheer copy of a design, that I once created for, and together with Arturia, the team around Frederic Brun. But this is not anything of such. Unless Arturia patented some specific aspect of the Keystep, anyone is (and should be!) The instant gratification of buying a knock off is no longer enough. Behringer is under fire again, this time for allegedly copying the design of the Arturia KeyStep with their new product Swing. Mackie ate Peavey’s lunch in the process, but Peavey responded as best they could. Tables? Arturia co-founder and CEO Frédéric Brun shared an official response via Facebook: “We have been informed on Sunday November the 22nd of the upcoming release of a new product called Swing, by Behringer. Go. Will be throwing in a bunch patch cables as well! Die Klonfabrik hat wieder zugeschlagen: Behringer hat einen MIDI-Controller namens Swing herausgebracht, der dem Keystep (Black Edition) von Arturia mehr als ähnlich sieht. Behringer is under fire again, this time for allegedly copying the design of the Arturia KeyStep with their new product Swing. You’re welcome. Equipped with USB for use with your software instruments, MIDI for your hardware synths, and CV/Gate/Mod outputs for Eurorack modular synthesizers, there is little the KeyStep Pro cannot control. “Does it come in white by any chance? BUT this is not acceptable, in any way. Proving secondary meaning can be difficult and costly, and is usually impossible for new market entrants.” If this goes to court in the USA, B is probably going to lose…. Make a version of the BSP without the ground loop issue. It’s not difficult to spot. Wrong. They don’t get it. If the market is out there, which the ridiculous prices of old machines is, then they have the opportunity to sell tons of reissues. Adapts to your setup! You worked hard to develop probably one of the most common layouts a basic midi controller will have? You will need a controller though - I recommend the [[ASIN:B083WHBMWT Arturia Keystep Pro]] because it's very easy to use, but also offers lots of control-voltage (CV) connectivity effectively providing an animation sequencer as well as notes. Here’s Arturia’s response to the conversation. Musicians PARTICULARLY don’t like the act of copying a creative product. Do something. Above: Behringer Swing, Under: Arturia Keystep / Photos: Behringer, Arturia. I could never share any of the designs, that came out of that cooperation with any body else, legally not, and not from my personal high attitude in that regards. Nous parlons français Export export-fr@musicstore.com +49 … All that said, I won’t be taking a risk on another Behringer product if these needless/uninspired knockoffs will be their focus. The X32 and the Neutron are great examples of this. When I did the first designs of the Keystep back in Dec 2014, I made about 10 variations over about 3 months. Having class and ethics matters. Those companies still exist. Payment & Returns. This swing at others needs to stop and isn’t good for anyone. Any questions message me! The Keystep is about 110 EUR no? Yep, the title is correct, Arturia Gets Ripped Off By Behringer. “seriously?” – i’m sure that’s a quote from Emily Gillet when she visited Arturia HQ to watch the Microfreak presentation. Next up – a Scarlett 18i20 with the DAW free”. BTW, the Behringer DAW will be a knockoff of Ableton. A weird combo of Ableton, Apple’s Mainstage and maybe FL Studio. In all cases, Arturia is buying my services – I never licensed any of the designs. An illustrated guide. Behringer faces flak over its Swing MIDI keyboard mirroring the Arturia Keystep | MusicTech musictech.net - Daniel Seah. naugatuck, CT, United States. Behringer has introduced SWING, a 32-Key USB MIDI controller keyboard with 64 step polyphonic sequencing, chord and arpeggiator modes.Look familliar? Calling it now. Right, so there is no difference. Great comment and good point – Behringer’s lack of creativity means that they’re not introducing anything innovative and new, and they’re also making it less profitable for other companies to actually create new gear designs. Does anyone know if it’s possible to do duophonic performances with the Neutron and Keystep? 4 ARTURIA – KeyStep – MANUEL DE L’UTILISATEUR Innfoorrmmaattiionss mIImppoorrttaanntteess CARACTERISTIQUES SUJETTES A CHANGEMENTS : Les informations contenues dans ce manuel sont censées être correctes au moment de l´impression. In the other, we have manufacturing and delivery competition, providing incrementally changing products as cheaply as possible to the masses. But the question stands, what changes should Behringer make for you to think the product is OK, and why? I was excited to see original designs like the Neutron, was planning to pick one up. It’s really sad to see all this in the synth world. This issue with the Keystep….if Behringer was the least bit concerned, they would recall this product now. 4. Arturia today shared their response to the Behringer Swing, a minikey MIDI controller that appears to be closely based on the design of the Arturia Keystep MIDI controller. I am happy, that more people notice, what kind of business Behringer runs. That doesn’t make it any better. But face it, would anyone really CHOOSE a Prophet VI over a Prophet 08/6/5? Emilie released her oscillator code under a permissive license that allows commercial reuse. Avid’s legal team would eat them alive We reported on it and at this point … Arturia Keystep Pro. Behringer cloned my sister! Josh Scott of JHS selling his Klon Centaur #2 for $500k! And they listen to their customers. I plan on getting a 2600, the System 100 modules and a Poly D because Korg have declined (so far) to release an affordable ARP 2600 to the masses; Roland have yet to re-issue accurate System 100 modules, and the Poly D is more affordable than a new Minimoog Model D (though I accept – not as good). Tons of blatant knockoffs on Amazon. But they don’t. I think people might forget about this one, as the keystep is pretty forgettable. At least, this is how many fans/users (of both brands) and top synth and production magazines see it. and i do not understand why behringer is risking this shitstorm for a small product with low profit. Even then some of those acquiring companies messed up and did not continue to adapt. The nerve! Shipped From. The world is rife with lower priced products, cheaper made, with the same functionality. November 24, 2020 Ten Ways Behringer Could Have Improved on the KeyStep. (A) is likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive […] as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of his or her goods, services, or commercial activities by another person, or Swing. I have bought one Behringer product in my life. Yamaha responded with competitive products and musicians reaped the benefits. I would love to see how that almost identical, basic layout of your old 88-key MIDI keyboard has the exact same functions assigned to the keyboard, and how it’s form factor fits the Arturia Keystep! But this, this I don't get. Behringer Model-D Neutron pro-1 k-2 Arturia keystep Rack Support 3 MDF sont sur eBay Comparez les prix et les spécificités des produits neufs et d'occasion Pleins d'articles en livraison gratuite! They actually have license agreements on that. My blends run from every day blends to very spicy and hot. 1 Client . Keystep is the perfect performance controller in a compact package. November 25, 2020. So anything, pointing in that direction is simply fake information. And his crass attitude and dismissive behavior just adds insult to injury. Along our distributors we have been evangelizing this product, placing it in stores, explaining it, servicing it. I hope Swing was a joke, they are disgracing their original DeepMind if not. no way i’m drinking that swill, I saw that Behringer came out with something About This Listing. Even if Behringers lawyers can find loopholes from law, it is clear for people with normal consciense, that this is wrong. Intellectual property, a brand’s historical knowledge and DNA… they largely define the products and services. Then Uli shows up. November 24, 2020 Ten Ways Behringer Could Have Improved on the KeyStep. Just spend the extra dollars and buy the Arturia Keystep (or the Pro); the difference in cost is minimal. He negotiated with contract manufacturers in China, relied on surface mount board design to drop costs, then directly stole the ID of competitors products. Yes this was a bad moment for Behringer. Like nobody every copied music. So Behringer’s official position is, “These third-tier Chinese manufacturers copy other people’s gear. In a statement, Arturia co-founder and CEO Frédéric Brun said: “We have been informed on Sunday November the 22nd of the upcoming release of a new product called Swing, by Behringer. Buying Behringer gear is akin to someone stealing your song. This is true for almost all hardware products that you know from Arturia. Didn’t Uli even Clone a 303 mod recently? I didn’t buy it because I wanted the Pioneer but couldn’t afford it. One might even call them “knock offs”. Behringer has come too big a name in consumer -friendly synths that they could (or should) get away with this. But, as I grow older and have contributed more to society, I feel a personal bond with creators and understand the business model that keeps innovators in business. I was really quite interested in more original creations like the Neutron, and Crave. Arturia Gets Ripped Off By Behringer (Keystep vs Swing) There's No Shame In Their Game. There is no point in buying a keystep knockoff. The design of the Swing is absolutely based on the Keystep, but that is not necessarily against any laws. Arturia designed and developed all the Beat/KeyStep line themselves and obviously (like most of the world) then handles the manufacturing under contract to a Chinese company specialized in producing these products (just like Apple does, etc), but under the supervision of Arturia QC technicians. It is stealing, and stealing is wrong. Pathetic. KeyStep was imagined and designed to become the modern musician’s trump-card. Behringer has also a history of trying to get away with illegal knock offs as it usually doesn’t suffer much more than an order to make it a bit different, as seen e.g. Whatever your setup, KeyStep will merge into it to overdrive your workflow and effectiveness. Yesterday Behringer showed the Swing, a new sequencer, for the first time. Un client a évalué ce produit avec 4 étoiles. In fairness Arturia did fluff this up initially, because they indicated endorsement or collaboration with Mutable, which hadn’t happened. The WASP clone made an otherwise rare synth available again. I do not understand (Uli) Behringer – with his huge company and the power of many great R&D teams – some of the best and most respected and innovative companies we know in our business, that Uli was able to simply buy in the past with his money. Starbucks undercuts them, out markets them and sneaks their brand into lifestyle campaigns that imbeds them into communities. Behringer Copy of Arturia Keystep. They differentiated their products from Yamaha and Peavey with those designs, performance and price. If MAYBE just maybe, they created something unique. I’m selling it. Yet they NEVER could match the sound and ease of use you get from the originals. Behringer; Behringer Neutron/Arturia Keystep Bundle. I prefer originals and that’s what moves the world forward! Behringer Swing, eine Arturia Keystep-Kopie. That involves a lot of tests and R&D. As industrial designer, I contribute mostly my services on the asthetical side of a product. I have no objection to clones of equipment long out of production, where the original company is long gone or just refuses to reissue a more modern but authentic recreation that people have been begging them to do for decades (looking firmly at you Roland and Yamaha!). 58.00 € / Analog Cases Pulse Case Yamaha Reface, Arturia KeyStep 37; Perfect fit for Yamaha Reface and Arturia KeyStep 37; Material: EVA; Removable foam insert to protect the keyboard; High-quality circumferential zip; Comfortable rubber carrying handle; Cable compartment in lid; Dimensions: 560 x 230 x 95 mm (outside); Weight: 0,75 kg And those who do not probably can’t afford to, so we shouldn’t begrudge them the chance to buy a cheaper version from Behringer. Pretend I’m one of those lawyers you see on TV shows who shows up right when their client is being interrogated: “Did my client do anything illegal? 1 of 2 Go to page. Behringer kündigt mit Swing ein USB/MIDI-Controller-Keyboard mit 32 Tasten an, das auch über einen polyphonen Sequencer und Arpeggiator verfügt – und dem Arturia Keystep zum Verwechseln ähnlich ist. It’s not the same, it’s got a different name , same as prefixing with a V, I bet mutable instruments is saying , serves you right. Might be harder than you think…, Funny… i have the same thought exactly… i’m looking at Presonus 32r with faderport as an option . Hell, they didn’t even bother their arse trying to modernise/improve the original circuitry! This one will backfire on Behringer – big time. In any case, thank you, everyone who came out and supported us these past 36 hours! The key step is only a little more expensive with a more reputable brand and without the stink of plagiarism. 1 x Arturia Keystep. Guitars? Arturia Gets Ripped Off By Behringer (Keystep vs Swing) There's No Shame In Their Game. Help? The 32-key MIDI controller from Behringer comes with the two pitch and modulation touch-strips, onboard arpeggiator and 64-step sequencer that you see on Keystep. While we are discussing the name B….. goes over the webs like a virus. 2020. See the products below. Release files to GitHub repo, done–no Frick, no flood. Designbox co-founder Axel Hartmann shot down the theory that they had licensed a design to Behringer. they were on a good way, now the PR department probably is calling in sick. This batch of dope was bad, I am never buying dope again. That’s the model to follow. It’s normal business practices everywhere else. They probably just opened a Minimoog, copied exactly what they found, maybe had to find alternatives for a few discontinued components, that’s it. Not knowing how this works, I would hope they would recall this product. 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